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Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:13:00 -
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My corp has been wardecced by an Alliance in hi sec because we were mining ... they want us to pay them to be allowed to play.
Well, since we're casual players, the price asked was more than we could earn per week, so we killed the corp and went back to NPC corps.
My question is this : is this kind of "griefing" legit ?
I know that EvE is a harsh place, but I thought that paying my subscription allowed me to play the game ... |

Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:22:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Let me ask this question?
Since your in an NPC corp now are you playing?
They were asking for isk not to wardec you basically.
No, they were asking for a monthly ISK fee of 200 millions to "protect" us, with no guarantees.
Yes, I'm currently playing, I'm just relocating my assets. |

Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:46:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:As it stands you'll never know. If you had paid them and they had in fact protected you from outside interference then I would say yes, it is completely legit. If you had and then they had not bothered to protect you then they were just strong arming you for iskies. Fuzziness here... did they contact you before the wardec and offer you their services for this fee, or did they open with the war? Lots of unknowns here, and as such it's hard to tell if they were on the level. Either way... protection racket, or strongarm extortion, both are acceptable playstyles in the dirty back alley universe of EVE.
Not a single word from them, they just opened the war, when I contacted them I heard some excuse that WE had killed a Noctis and a pod from them, when in fact that was the other way around, *I* was ganked ...
Well, I got the answer to my question, I've closed the corp I made 8 years ago, lost a POS and a pod with a full head of implants, and my bitter-meter was raised a notch ...
Lesson learned for the small time casual players : be silent and invisible. |

Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:13:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Kery Nysell wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:As it stands you'll never know. If you had paid them and they had in fact protected you from outside interference then I would say yes, it is completely legit. If you had and then they had not bothered to protect you then they were just strong arming you for iskies. Fuzziness here... did they contact you before the wardec and offer you their services for this fee, or did they open with the war? Lots of unknowns here, and as such it's hard to tell if they were on the level. Either way... protection racket, or strongarm extortion, both are acceptable playstyles in the dirty back alley universe of EVE. Not a single word from them, they just opened the war, when I contacted them I heard some excuse that WE had killed a Noctis and a pod from them, when in fact that was the other way around, *I* was ganked ... Well, I got the answer to my question, I've closed the corp I made 8 years ago, lost a POS and a pod with a full head of implants, and my bitter-meter was raised a notch ... Lesson learned for the small time casual players : be silent and invisible. After having a look at your eveboard link, I have only one thing to say. Shame on you! 130M SP with more than enough in PVP combat skills that you should have been able to meet them on the field of battle without fear and had some actual fun. This is either some kind of troll or you're just really weird. Mr Epeen 
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Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:21:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:You closed a corp you had for 8 years because some guys threatened you...Wuss.
Yes, your point being ?
I'd rather close a corp where I'm alone and restart it elsewhere than be bullied.
Yes, I'm a wuss. Never said otherwise. |

Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:13:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote: It saddens me to see that you just run away from what could be a great opportunity to experience another part of the game that is far more exciting than mining. Did it ever come to your mind to actually try and defend your corp?
I already tried the PvP side of eVe, that's how I know I don't like it.
And I indeed thought about defending my corp, then did a "show info" on the Alliance that wardecced me, saw that they had 40 pilots against me alone, and realized that I didn't stand a chance.
As to why I didn't pay : they asked for more ISKs than I can make with my limited game time available, basically I would have had to inject ISKies by buying PLEXes with Real Cash to meet their demands, on top of my subscription fees, and without a guarantee of not being ganked by them or others.
My "false views" of the game were already challenged years ago, it's just that I don't enjoy being hunted and bullied ... and no, they're not totally "false", there is indeed a PvE element in this game, or else how would the hardcore PvPers pay for the ships they will inevitably lose.
I could say that your very narrow view of the game is also false ... there is more than "yaaarrr PvP", "grrr Goons" and scamming/bullying to do in EvE. |

Kery Nysell
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:49:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote: If you played for eight years and still have to run from wardecs, then we'll all just monitor you and keep deccing you, every time you make a new one.
You are one very bright light.
Another good reason to stay in an NPC corp then.
Thanks for the veiled insult too. |

Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:39:00 -
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Kairos Antilles wrote:Eveboard profile deleted. Color me shocked. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! 
Yes, and signature removed, and website taken down. That cost me Real Cash for the registered domain name too.
All thanks to some answers here.
I don't want to be hunted like a rabbit on the opening day of hunting's season.
So I'm going into submarine mode.
I might even make a forum posting alt instead of posting with my main. ... |

Kery Nysell
98
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:38:00 -
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pure Alar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7wWA43-aKs how he lost his pod . we gave u enough warnings :) the tears expressed here are 
Oh yeah, that was me alright, totally AFK ordering pizza on the phone, not a single peep from you in Local or convo (yes, I keep logs), getting ganked while offlining my POS *BEFORE* the war took place.
And I don't even have tears in my eyes, I've long since accepted that my playstyle will lead to ISK loss on a massive scale.
Keep stroking your epeen mate ! ... |

Kery Nysell
98
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:10:00 -
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pure Alar wrote:what kind of pizza was it?
Hawaian with spicy oil and garlic butter. Yummy.
As strange as it seems, I value my pizza-time on the saturdays more than my eve time.
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